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i i i'm krystal ball. i'm steve kornacki. who will be the biggest loser? >> not me. surprising details out of south africa about the oscar pistorius murder case. is this really their o.j. strtr? i'm s.e. cupp. the film critic dropping true bombs. talk about a truth bomb, i'll lay out my case for why we need the gop. double boom. >> oh! in breaking news today, it's february. >> what? >> and one of the largest winter storms of the season is slamming the nation's mid section right now with blizzard-like
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conditions. two traffic deaths so far are blamed on the weather and all of this snow is now blowing east. close to a thousand flights canceled nationwide. let's get the latest of nbc meteologist dylan d reyer. >> i show up and everybody knows there's a storm going on. this is in the plains, big storm. spreading eastward and will weaken. so by the time making the way in to northeast it shouldn't be bringing that widespread snowfall. new england will start to see some snow going in to saturday and sunday. right now, though, you can see the snow is continuing to pound areas like missouri. it's starting to move in to southern illinois and chicago seeing the snow out of this, as well. we have moisture streaming in from the gulf of mexico and cold air surging in from the north and it's that come by thags that is creating widespread snow. we already have more than a foot of snow in parts of kansas and this could be one of the biggest snowstorms, perhaps the top five
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snowstorm in wichita, kansas. missouri, kansas city, to be act, the roads have been treacherous. seeing a lot of snow and ice and it's the ice accumulation that's going to be an issue, as well. some areas across southern missouri and in to the mississippi river valley could end up with about a quarter of an inch up to a half of an inch of ice so the storm is going to slowly spread eastward. ohio river valley is next on the target path for this storm and we're also seeing tornado watches in parts of louisiana. so it's not affecting the northeast right now. transforming in to a different storm getting here and this is a big storm for today and tomorrow, too. >> all right. dylan, thank you so much. and now it is my turn to forecast the weather. the freeze-out is stretching east to washington where both parties blame each other for the storm but this isn't your typical blizzard. worst, it's a sequester storm. sad. so we give you the sequester
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standoff. >> oh. >> we are just eight days away from the deadline to stop it and with lawmakers focusing on the blame, instead of, you know, an actual deal or something like that -- >> no. >> the odds are growing we're stuck with the $85 billion cuts and that $85 billion will actually be slashed in 7 months because the fiscal year ends september 30th. surprising to some, 40% of americans are okay with that. nearly half do want congress to get the act together and delay until they reach a bigger deal. always the optimist. but that same pew poll shows 29% of americans have never heard of the sequester. >> what is it? >> who can blame them? >> be specific. >> god bless them. if i wasn't my job to know these things, i would be among the blissful 29% unaware of the dysfunction. i can't blame you. michael sheerer is white house correspondent for "time" magazine which this week features a 36. page in-depth health care
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investigation and getting to that report in a minute but starting with the sequester. there's interesting new polling of who the american people are likely to blame. 49% say congressional republicans. 31% say the president. also, other polling showing a majority of even republican voters actually support the president's approach with a combination of spending cuts and tax hikes. what do you think's the best approach for the republicans at this point? >> i think what they're going to do is let the sequester happen to declare a victory and then have to come to the negotiating table. right now, republicans are not in the good position. it's worse i think for them looking at this polling than it was in 2011. even maybe than it was right after the election. they don't -- you know, i talked to a democratic hill aide today saying you have a 55% president favorability going up against a 10% congress. it's a fight they want to have. democrats are eager to have this
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fight and will be some at least short-term casualties in terms of furloughing and cuts to things that everyone agrees we should be spending money on. >> a perfect segue for me. democrats want the fight. the republicans perhaps don't. fantastic article today in "washington examiner" which i read all the time. >> no, you don't. >> by bryon york, the effect of boehner's argument is to make obama seem reasonable in comparison. after all, the president certainly agrees that boehner that the sequester cuts threaten national security and jobs. the difference is that obama wants to avoid them. could the gop message on the sequester be anymore self defeating? are they hurting the brand in the fight? >> you have to understand the back story. the gop thought they had a winning hand last year, the message would win them back the white house. it didn't work out that way and then they found themselves in a
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really difficult situation the end of the year facing tax increases across the board, obama had the upper hand there and they caved in a way that was incredibly painful for them. and so they looking coming out of january, they made the decision that they would rather stand and fight on the sequester than the debt ceiling. fight on the sequester to say in nine days that they have wrangled, you know, a significant amount of cuts out of the obama administration, an administration they say doesn't want to cut spending and then going to the cr, that's the washington speak for the next budget at the end of march and then i think that's when you see the negotiations and republicans can say, look, we have banked the savings. sequester goes in to effect probably slowly. won't see the huge impacts and then the president out there with first responders and schoolteachers saying the sky is falling and i -- what i expect
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will happen is what the polls say has to happen. republicans have to come to the table and bring revenue and try to get some deal. if it continues on this path, really looking for a world of hurt for the rest of the year, i think. >> michael, i just want to point out toure doesn't read "the washington examiner." >> i read it every day. >> the key is wrong. i had it written down right and it's wrong. >> all right. >> byron york. there's trickling news out obama may have reached out to either speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell to have the first discussions really since the new year. anything new on that? >> i think there will be outreach but i don't think just judging the physics of the republican caucus there's much upside for them cutting a deal before the sequester goes in to effect cutting a deal before they have basically banked the cuts and then if they cut a deal the day after, the week after
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the sequester, the leadership can say we have the cuts. just looking for more rational way of aportioning the cuts. if they do the deal beforehand, they'll see significant outrage from the base already upset of them caving in january. there will be talks. a slim chance they cut a deal before next friday but the body language right now is both people willing to go over the mini cliff and then come to the table shortly afterwards. >> but even if, you know, publicly or privately i should say president obama thinks he's going to win on this issue, even opt optically wouldn't it look good for the president to be able to say, i reached out, you know, i wanted to sort of come to agreement, i wanted to open a dialogue? isn't that something he should want? >> he will but the president learned the lesson of 2011. he doesn't want to be seen as the guy in the middle of the mess but apart from a mess that
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really happening right now in congress. and it's strikes through the messaging. obama's not putting himself on the line right now. he's saying, congress has a problem. they have to fix it or americans are going to get hurt. i don't want americans to be hurt and fighting for you. it is a very different pose than late summer of 2011 where the president was in these meeting rooms trying to broker a deal to save the country from -- >> but michael, it was a white house proposal. how can he do that? >> it was a white house proposal in origination but it was a life raft for both parties coming out of the debt ceiling. both parties embraced the sequester shortly afterwards. i think republicans fighting of who wrote the first draft of the memo won't win in the long run. it's clear that the sequester is something that white house aides were backing and came up with and brought to the hill and something that republicans grabbed on to to get out of an
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impossible situation in 2011. >> whether it's blame game or guns or minimum wages, putting republicans on the spot with an eye to the 2014 midterm elections. greg sergeant writing about it at "the washington post" today. strikes me bill clinton in 1998, the one time since the james monroe presidency that in the sixth year the white house is actually managed to pick up house seats and very hard to do that in the sixth year but what's the mood picking up among democrats in washington about how 2014 is shaping up for them and how the issues play in to them? >> i was asking that question today. they're not counting the chickens just yet. not only a different electorate in the polls in midterms, much more republican electorate than in presidential years, but you have a very different congress than in the mid-1990s. not that many districts up where obama -- where republicans sitting in seats obama won that
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district. there's not that much swing going on here. that doesn't mean democrats can't win back the house if things continue to go bad and what we're fighting over now put out a list of 27 members targeting over the sequester is a fight for this year to sort of set the stage for next year. still too far out to say democrats are in a position to win and we can say it's hard to win back the house. you know, republicans are in a position to remain rather unpopular nationally. could be losing the issues like losing them now in polls and hold on to power in the house and foreseeing situation at this point. >> turning back to health care, we have some news on health care. florida governor rick scott, republican, surprisingly somewhat is going to go through with the obama care medicaid expansion. you all have in-depth coverage of health care and costs and how is obama care plafing in to
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changing health care costs? >> it's a very complicated question. >> ten seconds or less. >> yeah. the rick scott -- >> yes or no answers. >> the rick scott decision follows other republican governors who have said, look, talking bad about obama care and can't pass up the money right now for the states and taking the money and deal with the other problems later on. the story we have is why costs are out of control. remembering back in 2009 rve, o was saying we'll take care of spending and rises costs of health care. in the end, the bill put forward and passed, affordable care act doesn't do much, scorable in terms of costs. creates a lot of risk on the out years in terms of cost insuring the people and if costs continue faster than inflation and gdp that's more money that the government will have to come up with. but the underlying issue that we talk about in the magazine this
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week, wrote about, is that hospitals right now are betting on the fact and doctors and insurance companies you're not paying attention to what you're paying for services and so what that means is the marketplace of medicine is askew. you can pay 10,000 times what a tylenol pill costs the hospital when you go to the hospital. four times the cost of a very expensive medical implant. the hospitals will bill you $40 for the doctor's scrubs and other companies and medicare never pay for the doctor's scrubs. that would be included in the cost of things. they're billing up and we have an incredibly profitable medical industry bankrupting the country. nonprofit hospitals making significant margins under the non-profit umbrella and dealing with the costs of obama care supposed to address but didn't really address, it dealt well with covering the uninsured we
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have to get a handle on how we bill medicine in this country. >> a lot of work still remaining to be done there. michael, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. up next, if you thought the murder case against amputee olympian oscar pistorius couldn't get weirder, it just has. details next. we've all had those moments. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership.
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oscar pistorius case took another bizarre turn after the lead investigator had a case reopened against him.
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we could find out tomorrow morning whether he gets bail. nbc's michelle kosinski is in africa. >> reporter: seems like every day something happens that makes you say, what now? this was a battle between two very good attorneys. first, the defense blasted the prosecution's case about how police gathered evidence, things they said were just wrong and the fact that the chief police investigators faces attempted murder charges for an on-the-job shooting and then prosecutors' turn to blow holes in pistorius' account of what happened that night. they said if even you believe it, this is the preplanned murder of a burglar. he claimed he dropped the gun but prosecutors say the gun was found in a different place on a little carpet outside the shower next to the cell phones of both pistorius and reeva.
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they said it's totally inconsistent and something he can't explain. also, pistorius said he woke up in the pitch black and thought reeva was in the bed and grabbed the gun and started shooting. prosecutors said he would have had to walk by her at least three times. you won't try to wake her, at least look at her. they call the account totally improbable, said that pistorius is prone to violence and that he's bound to been convicted. we don't know whether or not he will be released on bond, a decision we expect tomorrow. back to you. >> all right. thank you, michelle. let's spin about this, it's a big, gigantic, international story to talk about for a while. one thing to think about, i said this before, more than twice as many women are killed by a gun used by the husband or boyfriend than murdered by strangers using guns, knives or any other means.
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no matter what happened legally in this, a woman is dead because there's a gun in the home. guns in the home leave people less safe, not more. the other thing, they're starting to have this as we're trying to get media about this, maybe this is strict's o.j. trial. let's slow down. we try to make the connections. not at all earned, not yet. perhaps not ever. we have an athlete, domestic violence and murder. but the o.j. trial was so much about race and class. this pistorius thing will not get to that level and it was also a soap opera. on television every day for almost two years. right? we have had cameras banned from the courtroom in pistorius. we won't get to that soap opera thing. not talking about south africa's o.j. here. >> yeah. i mean, i agree with that. i would also say based on what we know which is not everything and we're still looking at the facts and seeing what comes out, but based on what we know, this
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case is also a bit more clear cut than the o.j. simpson case because we know oscar was there. we know that he was the one. he said he was the one that shot her. so we know that. was it premeditated or not? seems like it's less dependent on the investigator, on the prosecution. i have to say, it seems like based on this chief investigator removed from the case, performance thus far, probably a good thing for the prosecution that he's been taken off the case and less than impressive thus far. >> i think the closer comparison might be someone like phil specter or jason williams where we know they were there, we know that someone died. they were the root cause of that death and we just don't know why. phil specter claimed that the young woman in his home accidentally or on purpose shot herself and jason williams claims he accidentally shot his driver. so i think you're right in that
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the o.j. comparison only makes sense in that they're both athletes. there isn't any other sort of -- >> phil specter -- >> to the extent it's clear cut, if it is, o.j. thing was pretty clear cut from the beginning. >> i agree, steve. i agree. >> i remember sitting there watching -- >> he said he wasn't there. >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> no. still innocent after all these years? >> only. >> how's that hunt for the real killer is going? >> i don't think we're looking for him. i don't know. >> tough to do that in the -- >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit? >> justice. >> thank you, johnnie cochran. who's the other celebrity defense lawyer? shapiro. >> yeah. >> legalzoom.come. >> and because of that case, we have -- >> robert kardashian's child. >> thanks for that trial. all right. where's marcia clark when you
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tonight i propose working with states to make high quality preschool available to every single child in america. studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, form more stable families of their own. we know this works. so let's do what works and make sure none of our children start the race of life already behind. let's give our kids that chance. >> that was the president calling for universal prekindergarten education taking inspiration of red states, no less. more on that in my rant, ahead. that's what we call a tease in this biz. >> oh, okay. >> this week education secretary
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duncan released a report documenting the inequalities of the schools, begin setting children back as early as 3 and 4 years old. our next guest says that it's great that leadership is ready to invest in early education but we have to focus on how we spend those funds and teach parents what they can do, too. in the guest spot today is milton chen who wrote "education nation" about this topic and a senior fellow at the george lucas foundation supporting innovative teachers and processes. milton, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> let's first stipulate, we don't have all of the details of what this pre-k proposal from the president would look like. but from the research i'm seeing, i mean, the problem not just preschool for everyone. it's quality preschool for young children. is it your opinion that this proposal gets at that goal of a quality education?
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>> well, i'm glad the president mentioned those words quality and high quality at least twice in the remarks because that should be key. professionalize and modernize education and working with the states is important. and funding alone doesn't assure that. we need to look closely at the preparation of early childhood teachers and educators and the connection to parents. this could be a real opportunity to help parents before the kids get to preschool in the first five years of life before they get to preschool. when they're toddlers and up to the age of 2 or so and so much to create a positive learning climate within the family. many aspects of the proposal are not clear. >> when we get more details, what specifically would you be looking for in that? >> importantly, there's flexibility in the federal funding. there's one thing we have learned about federal funding in education and perhaps other fields is that the states need some flexibility. the state s vary widely and the
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funding and they need to craft a state plan that can use federal funding and more flexible ways, investing more in preschoolteachers' salaries or may want to invest in facilities and curriculum, digital learning and preschools and looking closely, as well. lots of opportunities and lots of possibilities and i hope there's flexibility not being specific about how the funds should be spent. >> i think obama's in a little bit of a tough spot here, this is an ambitious and probably worthy plan and operating in a climate of deficit hysteria in washington and joan walsh writing at salon where i write and a lot of experience actually with pre-k policymaking wrote about it this way and saying when you look at the framework for 4 years partnering with the
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state and other programs for children under 4, the idea it's revenue neutral, may not be realistic. do you have a sense, is public money going to be more money from the government going to be required to pull this off? >> well, i think there's some ways providing additional funding to be revenue neutral. you know, in terms of the amount of funding, we don't yet know and there are ways i believe of making sure that this does not add to the federal budget and saving funds elsewhere possible to invest in early childhood and as you were saying earlier, looking at a period to invest in, the first five years and 4 and 5-year-olds critical. pays off tremendous benefits. >> talking about benefits, milton, the per state per pupil spending on education is a really interesting predictor of academic success or lack thereof. it is not a perfect science but generally the states that spend more get more achievement from
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their students and the states that the end to spend less get less. that's the map of per pupil spending and the map of national rating, the colors inverted but there's a correlation of how much you spend and the achievement you get from the students. so how can we get the states to narrow that gap so we don't have a gigantic differentiation of new york and utah spends per student? >> well, i would say there's a weak correlation of per pupil spending and factors such as high school graduation, lower truancy, going to college. certainly, the northeast, they tend to spend more per pupil, in the south less. a lot of that is cost of living, facilities, teachers' salaries. money is not the determinant. we need to invest in things such as technology. we are seeing a sea change with technology at a lower cost than purchasing print textbooks. ways of saving money and also putting more money in to the classroom. and also reducing the
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bureaucracy of education, as well. >> milton, do you think it's an end goal maybe just legislateively to make pre-k mandatory the way that primary and secondary education are fairly mandatory in this country? >> well, i always get a little nervous talking about mandatory education. because students vote with their feet all the time. don't they? certainly high school years. we cannot force students to go to school. >> right. >> i think i would rather have incentives for parents to make sure that the children are involved with a quality preschool experience. there's incentives for parents. i was talking earlier about the importance of parent education to practice high quality parenting at home. kids spend more time at home than a school or a preschool so the importance of family time and how that can support what goes on in school and preschool becoming very important. >> milton chen, thank you very much. >> thank you. when truth isn't stranger
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fdr had polio and he would not have been able to stand up in "pearl harbor." "braveheart" from the lowlands of ireland and no kilt and "chariots of fire" he won the race first and lost the second race. even the movies won best picture at the oscars and this year's apparent front-runner "argo." spoiler alert, chasing the plane, didn't happen in real loif. >> what? >> what? >> sorry about that, guys. does playing it fast and loose with the facts matter in historical movies? next guest thinks so. andrew o'hare, a senior film critic for salon.com saying it's a painful history in to a cheesy propaganda thriller. andrew, in your essay this week, which is -- i encourage everyone to read. it's always fun to read. especially when you don't like
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things. you sdraw a distinction of "lincoln and" the vote on the 13th amendment and connecticut voted no and they voted yes. can you tell us what you found so offensive, you kauld it a propaganda fable. what is it that made you feel that way? >> really, with "ar go" the entire basically third act of the film didn't happen the way they said it did and converted a real life story in to a conventional kind of hollywood thriller and reassuring film in which the americans are the good guys and the iran hostage crisis works out great and i feel like ben affleck kind of seths it up so that it's historical when they want to be and bring in jimmy carter. i'm sorry if you haven't seen it yet, people. >> killing it, andrew. >> to talk at the end of the film and then all these thriller
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beats with nothing to do with what happened. it's sort of just this very soft focus feel good approach to history i think does a disservice. >> well, now that people know that carter is in at the end, ticket sales explode. >> i'm there tonight. >> i wonder then given all of the liberties that they took in the third act, and given the actual historical story, do you think there was a movie to be made here at all and what kind of movie would you like to have been seen if there is? >> to me, it is not like the individual things is i think defensib defensible. i like that they blew up the hollywood aspect of it and alan arkin and things i think are totally fine but the wholesale fictionalization to make it feel more like a hollywood movie kind of eventually rubbed me the wrong way. the real stories, in fact, very interesting. they came to teheran with three
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very different cover stories and they picked in the embassy movie cover story as more successful because more implausible. the revolutionary guard would not suspect a movie crew because it was an outrageous cover story and could have made the film dramatic and realistic at the same time and i think just feel like it's such a formulaic designed film for a conventional audience expectations. >> why do you have to be such a nudge and the debbie downer? no. i loved "argo" and under your criticism but tell me behind the scenes, is the academy's job to bring it back to the oscars, the academy's job to judge it as a piece of art or does that matter to judges? is that the point that it should matter? >> yeah. i think it -- the academy is a
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trade show and what represents the american film industry in the most favorable light. no coincidence that this film depicts, you know, hollywood as a hero. you know? >> yeah. >> as other people besides me observed. the takeaway may be hollywood got the hostages out which really isn't exactly the way it happened but is -- it's very flattering portrayal of sort of sarcastic and flattering portrayal of the film industry and never hurts. think about the artist last year. >> yeah. >> this is a very, very butter you up kind of movie and not a terrible movie. not trying to completely rain all over ben affleck's parade. >> oh good. >> but i think it's good less than the sum of the parts. >> andrew, i really disagree with your thesis here. basically you are saying that hollywood movie is dramatized. oh no. and what they're doing is trying to get at some sort of emotional truth. it was difficult to get out of iran. they're not lying to you and
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saying they got out of iran and they didn't. trying to use dramatization to give you the feeling of how difficult do gut of iran in this situation. man, using artistic license in the service of emotional truth is what hollywood does and should do and coming off a little bit of a lame scold right now. >> okay, yeah. but make a better movie. that's my point. this one feels like so many other thrillers. if you're going to fictionalize it, got to deliver. you don't want crazy guards with beards and chasing the plane down the runway at the last minute because you think that plays better with the audience. it's a cynical choice to write. that's what i'm saying. >> tell it. >> yes. >> triple boom! >> we all have a -- i was saying before the show, we have our own movies that drive us nuts. my personal one is "rudy." all wrong. that's another story. andrew o'hare of salon.com, my writing home, too, thank you for
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joining us. we might have dominated that segment sort of but research shows that women -- >> what? >> this is what the script says. read what they put in front of me. go bleep yourself, san diego. actually, talk more than men. but according to the university of maryland school of medicine, the average woman speaks about 20,000 words a day. the average man utters about 7,000 a day. as not a huge surprise and same researchers say they might know why. their brains contain 30% of the so-called language protein. >> i knew it! >> no, no. >> involved in vocalization. like always, we want you to vocalize your thoughts. so this is 7,000 words right here. we asked the facebook friends, who talks about things you want to hear. david says, what? i wasn't listening. >> wah wah!
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a little bit of a man whore. >> i don't care what she thinks. >> i don't care about drama as long as it doesn't concern me. >> at this point, i just want to get in the sheets with him. i don't care about anything else but me and him smooshing. >> listen. can i give you a friendly rack? looking far job, do it more boisterously if you know what i'm saying. you put down the resume and she was like -- hah. >> she wanted it. >> none of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student but you are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period. >> i think that was a never before seen girls flick. >> right? >> i don't remember that. >> me neither. >> called the worst employees in history and even the dumbest generation. but our next guest says, whoa, not so fast. today's 80 million, 18 to
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30-year-olds have a few things going for them. they're the largest generation in american history, a third of american adults, most diverse than the elders and starting careers in the worst job market since the great depression making them very resilient. >> silver lining there. >> take one. >> good thing. >> while there might be the crazy party animal millennials, that is not a blanket statement. many taking leadership roles in the fast changing world including our next guest. he's david berstein, director of generation 18. david's also author of "fast future, how the millennial generation is shaping our world." welcome, david. >> great to be with you. >> how old are you exactly? >> 24. >> solidly in there. >> solidly. >> how are millennials shaping the future? >> thinking about what happened in the past, several years as the generation is coming of age, we are the people who are
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creating the new tools that are powering the entire world. if you look at the way that businesses and everyone is living their lives, it is all based on companies and things created by the generation. look at twitter, facebook. these are are things creating disruptive change in how the economy works and how governments work and it's all being created from this generation. so it's really having a deep impact on people of all generations. >> well, so let's talk politics for a minute. a particular project of mine to make conservatism more appealing to younger voters and that's no easy feat but i'm willing to put the work in. you know, what can conservatism do if you had to advise the movement? is it really just about weed, gay marriage, twitter? >> i think that's a piece of it. i think gay marriage and the social issues are a piece of it and seen college republican organizations on college campuses coming out marriage and things like that, breaking with i think what a lot
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of the party believes and i think more to the point. politicians are both parties have to actually fight for this generations vote every time because even though mill leanals are more democratically leaning, they are not big identifiers in political party membership. they don't see themselves as members of a political party, so each candidate is going to have to work to get votes at this generation. >> there has been political science research that has shown in the past that basically when people become to voting age, they sort of get locked in with the first party they vote for and the margins in 2008 and 2012 among millennials were so overwilliamiove overwhelming for obama. you saw voting patterns loyalty to a party really get locked into place. even if they're not necessarily explicitly identifying with a party right now, do you think it starts a trend there just voting for obama twice by such
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overwhelming margins? >> i think it's important to realize millennials believe in the civic responsibility of voting which is part of the reason you saw such high turnout in 2008 and 2012 in addition to their excitement about, as you mentioned, obama in 2008 and 2012. but i think this generation also believes in civic involvement in other ways and you're seeing more activity in social entrepreneurship and young people starting businesses that's perhaps maybe where more of their energy is going to be focused as opposed to going out and campaigning and putting energy behind every single political democratic or republican candidate. >> millennials are also often called the facebook generation because it's had a huge impact on shaping the generation. >> it means for the first time an average person sitting at home can share a message with the entire world and we've seen that time and time again over the past few years. we saw it this summer with what happened with sandra flock, the
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student from georgetown who had a view that in any other generation would have been totally not heard by anyone else, and she became a super activist. she became a voice speaking up for women's rights and her particular issues and testified before congress. so i think that is definitely something that social media has enabled to do is to scale their activism and to scale their views quicker and faster than any other generation. >> david, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, crystal on why we need the gop. >> what? >> did i hear that right? i already like it. (dog) larry,larry,larrryyy. why take exercise so seriously,when it can be fun? push-ups or sprints? what's wrong with fetch? or chase? let's do this larry! ooh, i got it, i got it! (narrator) the calorie-smart nutrition in beneful healthy weight...
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guess what, guys? mitt romney is back. he's just been added to the lineup of this year's annual conservative gathering joining luminaries like sarah palin, allen west, marco rubio and rick santorum. it's a list of old faces with tired, worn out lines and new faces with tired, worn out lines. and apparently mitch mcconnell got taken in by a constituent who believed an assertion that former gitmo detainees were now obtaining gi bill benefits. you know, guys, i got to be honest here, my appetite for gop
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inspired schadenfreude is wearing thin. there's not a day that goes by that doesn't bring an offensive comment or a crazy pants conspiracy. sure it's been fun laughing at boehner's haplessness, but more and more by enjoyment is being undermined by a obvious reality. the country needs this gop, one that is intellectually curious, open to prescriptions, actually committed to solutions. what we've got now is a party that's been frank luntzed. a party so focused on messages, pack alging, and driving the narrative they forgot there's anything else to do. a party that's so focused on what they're opposed to that they have nothing left to be for. when i watch marco rubio's tired state of the union response which featured the same old